Interview with doom death metal band from United Kingdom - MY SILENT WAKE.
Answered Ian Arkley (guitars, keyboards, vocals), thank you!
Recenze/review - MY SILENT WAKE - Lost in Memories, Lost in Grief (2024):
Ave MY SILENT WAKE! To start our conversation with a short story...I got up early and went into the woods. It was quiet and the sun was slowly climbing over the horizon. I came to the ruins of an old church. In the ruins, I sat down for a while and listened to your new album "Lost in Memories, Lost in Grief". It was the end of April, the album came to me for review earlier. I wasn't able to write anything until last week, I preferred to keep listening. Greetings to the South West of England and thank you so much for your new album. How did the album come about, when did the first ideas and thoughts come about? What is the underlying theme of the whole record?
ANSWER: Hi Jakub. Greetings to you too. That is so good that you listened for so long and let it sink in; much better than a quick listen and a lazy review. The album came about after a period of inactivity where we had plenty of new songs, but difficulty getting anything concrete created. My mother died two years ago and after that I began to write a few songs in a short space of time. I decided to write the whole album on my own and get it recorded as soon as we could feasibly do it. It had been so long since the last one, and even longer since the last metal album from us. Two of the songs are about my mother and other songs are about other things I had been thinking about during that time. One of the songs and some other sections had almost been completed prior to this and were included in the song selection.
I listen mostly to fast music, raw death metal, black and thrash, but doom metal is kind of in my blood since the first albums PARADISE LOST and MY DYING BRIDE. A long time ago, when I was still in college, I discovered this style with my future wife. How do you explain that this wave was born in England? Ian, you used to play with Simon in a band called SEVENTH ANGEL (I have a lot of your records at home), but they were more thrash (although you were already flirting with doom). How did you get into this style and how did you start MY SILENT WAKE? Please take us on a trip into the history of your band.
ANSWER: I suppose doom is thought to have originated from the UK with Sabbath and the mantle had been taken up by overseas bands like Trouble, St Vitus and Candlemass. Maybe the Brits decided to claim it back and borrow some US death influences along the way! I’m not sure why the scene began or why it came about when it did, but it was short lived and was never massively popular.
I was into Sabbath when I was young, and early on when Seventh Angel was at its demo stage, I got into other doom bands such as Trouble, and have always been drawn to slower heavier music. Towards the end of Seventh Angel, I started to enjoy Paradise Lost, MDB and Anathema and so it was natural that my follow up band was a doom band. That band was Ashen Mortality, which after 11 years morphed into MSW. My Silent Wake always had a more relaxed attitude to our music and whatever came out was allowed to be used. We took inspiration from Celtic Frost in that respect and were not afraid to experiment along the way. Into The Pandemonium is a favourite of mine.
Personally, I discovered you guys right away with your first album "Shadow of Sorrow", which I still like to play when I read books for a long time. I was fascinated by its atmosphere then, and in fact still am today (by the way, the cello and vocals, performed by Kate Hamilton, were always excellent!) Then, when I listen to your other recordings, it seems to me (and maybe it's just my impression) that you're getting more and more raw and cold. Doom metal is basically a sad style, but you're grasping it in a new way. How do you perceive the evolution of your band? Where did you want to move to this year?
ANSWER: That is fantastic that you have been listening to us for so long! That was an exciting time getting the band up and running and a lot happened in the first few years. Maybe as I get older I have become a bit more jaded about a few things, but I think I am generally happier and more content as a person. I don’t feel as restricted lyrically as I once did, and feel I can say everything I need to in the songs. The band has always been changing and evolving and has had the freedom to play other styles such as when we go in a more folky or ambient direction. I don’t see this year as being any different. I am writing one new song this year as we have our 20 year anniversary next year. It is a metal song.
Ian, you're the only one left from the original line-up. Actually, one could also write that your band "stabilized" in terms of personnel only sometime in 2013. Why is that? Did you want to go in a different direction than the others? How hard is it to find musicians in England who are equally passionate about style? This style has never been in the limelight and the crowds don't come to see it.
ANSWER: The early lineup lasted about five years but parted due to life commitments rather than anything else. There was a short period of change and then we settled into a more stable line-up again. As people get older it is harder to commit to bands, even when they don’t do a lot of gigs etc, you still have to record, write and rehearse and do other band related work. I don’t think there are many musicians into what we do, or indeed many fans in the UK. We often play to small numbers but they always seem to enjoy and appreciate us. Over the years I have played with former MSW members such as Mark Henry, who plays with me in Guillotine Dream.
Let's go back in history. SEVENTH ANGEL is a band in which you dealt with Christianity, in MY SILENT WAKE you also touch on faith as such in some topics. For me, faith is a personal thing that is hard to describe in words, but I wonder where you get your inspiration for the lyrics? And what are they about on the new album?
ANSWER: I was a Christian for many years since childhood, but eventually and gradually became agnostic. That change can be seen in the lyrics. When the band started up, I was a non-fundamentalist Christian with doubts about my faith, but that was 19 years ago. I have changed a lot since then. The other band members have also had a variety of beliefs over the years. I think faith should be personal and it would be the cause of far less trouble if that were so. I get lyrical inspiration from things that happen in my life or seeing what happens to those who are close to me. On the new album, the lyrics cover such areas as Alzheimers disease and the effects of that; being judged by those who once looked to you as worthwhile; finding light in places which are different to where you once found it; believing you are being hounded by a beast which is just in your mind; memories of childhood; mainpulative people and their followers; lack of time doing meaningful things; looking back on your life etc..
If you saw my library, you might wonder. You'll find old historical books and novels, modern detective stories, science fiction. I'm the same with books as I am with music. I like to sample. I'll go to a grindcore concert, listen to black metal. But doom metal is a very specific kind of music. It's got every note, drum beat, vocal. How do you actually compose such music? I'm interested in the process of creating a new song? Is that a motif you can hear somewhere? In the ether, in your head? For me, for example, the words for reviews come to mind most early in the morning when I'm walking to work. I write them down on my phone and then use them when I start writing. How do you do it?
ANSWER: I also write things down on my phone or record guitar parts on there. It is an ideal way of capturing inspiration as it arrives. There is no rule about how things get written but quite often it seems to start with the music and then the lyrics are built around it. Inspiration can come from many areas; books, films, music, surroundings, experiences...they all contribute. I too have a broad range of interests when it comes to what I read, watch and listen to.
I'll confess to one thing. You know what literally fascinates me about Lost in Memories, Lost in Grief? The vocals! You and Simon have very urgent voices, you complement each other perfectly. It's like you're connected in some weird way? Do you have a musical background? Do you take singing lessons, for example?
ANSWER: Thank you! A few people have mentioned that they like the way the vocals work on this album. I have never taken singing or guitar lessons and Simon hasn’t taken lessons in anything he does musically either. Simon is naturally a great singer and I am a vocalist. Simon can do more of the technical stuff and I can do growls and low to mid range clean stuff but I don’t normally attempt harmonies or anything too exotic! We have been playing together since the late 80s. Si took up bass for Seventh Angel. He took up keys for MSW many years later. He also plays other instruments including guitar which he plays extremely well, as can be heard on his album Thy Listless Heart – Pilgrims on the Path of no Return; an album that shows off his musicianship and writing skills very well. We have been close friends all those years since the 80s and have been playing together in the two bands for a fair amount of that time.
You're from Weston, a port town. I don't know if that's true, but it seems to me that the sea and the surrounding countryside must have inspired you a lot? Or am I wrong? I imagine you're walking along the beach or visiting an old church and suddenly you think of a new theme for a song. Because I feel this strange melancholy from the new record, which is something that not only British doom bands have, but also bands from Finland. Does the environment influence you a lot in your work? Where do you actually like to go? What about you and nature, sights?
ANSWER: The sea, the countryside, ancient places, forests and woods all influence me and I have had lyrics come to me whilst out walking in the past and stopped to make notes. I am not a fan of the city or modern looking things. I love old things, vintage things and the aesthetics of the past. I hail from The Black Country near Birmingham originally, (an area which was key to the industrial revolution), but I moved to Weston in the late 90s. I lived there for 20 years and MSW was spawned from Ashen Mortality in that town.
How are you on the gigging side of things? I have Bristol and the surrounding area pegged as more of a punk and hardcore inspired place. Do you play a lot and often? We have a few good doom bands in Pilsen and the gigs tend to be really poorly attended. Which is a pity, although I understand that this music is not for everyone. How many people come to the club to see you? And what are the English fans like? Do they support the bands?
ANSWER: Bristol also has a lot of experimental and heavy music fans. I don’t live near there now but in Wales near Carmarthen. The only band member living in Weston now is Addam. Gareth lives near the Severn Bridge and Simon in Chesterfield. Some gigs are very poorly attended. We haven’t done many in the last few years but we did do two this year. Both were good gigs and were enjoyable, but the crowds are typically dedicated, few in numbers, but enthusiastic.
Most bands have rather fluctuating quality in their discographies. But it's different for you. I don't think you've recorded a bad album yet. How do you explain that? Are you perfectionists? Or is it all under one person's "direction", Ian? They say a band is like a family. Yeah, well, there's always got to be someone in the band who has the final say. How about MY SILENT WAKE?
ANSWER: I suppose that because I started the band, I feel I can make final decisions on things but I do normally discuss stuff with the others. I’m glad you think we haven’t done a bad album. We haven’t really done two that sound exactly alike and some are extremely different to each other. I tell people to listen to a few tracks if they haven’t heard us before, because one won’t tell them enough about what we do. I am not a perfectionist in the technical sense but I like things to feel right and effectively convey the essense of what we are hoping to convey. I have found in the past that if a band becomes too much of a democracy, then things don’t tend to get done!
As I'm getting older, I'm becoming more and more aware of what things are important. It's chaos all around us these days. Social media, the news, wars, depression, it all affects us and every moment we stop and maybe just sit and look at the ruins of old churches and listen to music is terribly precious.
ANSWER: The lyrics to the song No Time is about that exact feeling. Things are too hectic now. Bands can fall into the social media hell of having to post stuff everywhere all the time to try and not be forgotten amidst a sea of bands, but it’s a thankless task at the end of the day. Hopefully people will realise that it isn’t doing us any good and will start to distance themselves. I find it hard to do that myself but it is addictive and harmful.
Actually, for me, music is not only relaxation, but also a kind of therapy, it helps me to survive in the strange world of today. What does music mean to you as a creator and musician? And why doom metal?
ANSWER: I love music and have done from a young age. The music I enjoy the most is classic rock, folk, old goth, doom and trad metal but I venture to many other areas too. I am always checking out new (to me) music. Most of the time it is about the feel of the music above anything else. I am as likely to listen to Steeleye Span or Dead Can Dance as Paradise Lost and enjoy them equally.
One more trip into history, please. How did you get started in music? Who was your first role model? What about your first gig? And your first stage performance?
ANSWER: The first song I remember enjoying is Mull of Kintyre by Wings. Mom had a recording of me singing it and strumming a toy guitar when I was about eight. I got into Adam and The Ants and my first record purchase was by them. I heard Saxon on the radio as they were in the charts and got into metal through them. I also enjoyed some of the new wave and post punk bands from the late 70s and early 80s as there was a lot of that in the charts, but I really went down the metal and prog direction in a big way. The first gig would have been some local band and wasn’t massively memorable. My first stage performance is difficult to pin down. In the 80s I did do some odd thing at a church in Coventry playing some U2 style guitar on one song that I had written with some friends before playing my first Seventh Angel gig, but don’t remember much about it!
What are MY SILENT WAKE planning in the near future? Do you have anything to say to your fans? Here is the space.
ANSWER: A new song, a compilation and some gigs for our anniversary next year are all on the horizon. A big Thank You is the thing I would like to say to our fans for the support and for letting us keep this band going. It is a big honour to be able to get your songs recorded and released these days and to actually be noticed to any degree. Thanks so much for the interview!
I was up early when I prepared these questions, it's also the weekend and it's about to dawn. You can probably guess where I'm going. I've got my headphones ready, "Lost in Memories, Lost in Grief" in them, and I'm looking forward to the woods. I want to thank you very much for your music. Thank you of course also for the interview and I wish you lots of inspiration and good ideas. May you do well in your private life too! Playing again…
ANSWER: Thanks so much!
Recenze/review - MY SILENT WAKE - Lost in Memories, Lost in Grief (2024):
Recenze/review - MY SILENT WAKE - There Was Death (2018):
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